Assange in Sweden: Witness 'A'
STOCKHOLM/LONDON (Rixstep) — Nine witnesses were
interrogated in conjunction with the preliminary police investigation into the
allegations made against Julian Assange. Some of these interrogations were
conducted by telephone and therefore 'conceptual' in nature; others took place
on location and were recorded and thereafter transcribed.
The interrogation of 'Witness A' was conducted by Ewa
Olofsson by telephone on 7 September and 8 September (18 days after the case
was filed) and all told took 45 minutes.
Ewa Olofsson also acted as chief interrogator and police
interrogation witness in some of the recorded interrogations including that of
Julian Assange.
The witness, referred to in this narrative as 'A', is also
coincidentally a member of the 'talk about it' network.
A said she and Anna are good friends and that they took a
train ride together on 11 August. Anna then told her Julian Assange would be
living in her flat when he came to Sweden. Anna would be out of town.
Anna rang A the Saturday after and invited A to a crayfish
party they were going to have for Julian at Anna's place. Anna also told her
she'd had a wild weekend and had sex with Julian. Anna also mentioned Julian
ejaculated in her but A was unsure of exactly what Anna was trying to say. Anna
told her Julian broke a condom when they had sex but A interpreted it to mean
Julian had broken it by mistake. Not until Sunday did A understand Anna was saying
Julian broke the condom deliberately.
A was at the crayfish party and everything was normal and A
met Julian for the first time. A hadn't sensed that Julian and Anna had
something going at the party. A didn't speak very much with Julian.
A and Anna met on Sunday to work together. A asked Anna how
things were, how things were going with Julian, if they'd had sex again, and if
in such case it had been good. Anna told her they'd not had more sex because
Anna didn't feel secure and then Anna told her what had happened. Anna told her
story in a completely different way than previously, told her Julian had been
unpleasant and amongst other things broken a necklace when they had sex. Anna
had told Julian to take it easy but he just continued.
Anna also told A that she believed Julian had broken the
condom himself they used. A said that she was ashamed because she hadn't
understood and listened better to what Anna was actually saying during their
Saturday telephone call when Anna told her about Julian. A had herself
interpreted it, when Anna told the story, that Julian had thought it was hot
whilst Anna thought it went beyond what she herself desired.
The most remarkable thing according to A was that Anna told
her she hadn't been able to move when she and Julian had sex because Julian
held onto her. Anna said she'd decided Julian should fuck her until he came
because that was the simplest solution.
The story with the condom according to A sounded like
another story which was also creepy but the most unpleasant thing according to
A was the violence which made it unpleasant for Anna to have sex with Julian. A
didn't get the impression that Anna had been afraid of Julian but it had
instead been 'uncomfortable' and he hadn't treated her with respect. Julian
didn't check to see what Anna wanted. A interpreted this to mean that Anna
wasn't afraid but experienced the situation as a 'hassle'. He didn't anchor what
he did with what she wanted and didn't care about her and lacked respect and
used too much violence.
Anna said she could hardly move but could move enough to
make sure Julian was wearing a condom. When Anna told the story she showed A
with her head how she could see Julian's genitals. Anna said that they then had
sex and then went beyond the limits when Anna lost interest. Julian then had
sex with Anna until he came and then she felt how things ran out of her nether
regions and she also saw how Julian's condom was rolled up at the root. Julian
had then avoided Anna's questions.
After Sunday and during the following week A and Anna talked
a lot about Julian. A learned a lot of things such as Julian doesn't take
showers, he doesn't flush the toilet, and more. Anna also told her on Wednesday
or Thursday that Julian had showered and also found another woman he slept over
with. When they talked about Julian still living with Anna, A interpreted this
to mean Anna wanted Julian to leave her flat in a few days but for some reason
he was still there. Julian wanted to continually postpone his moving out
despite her efforts.
A didn't think Anna was afraid of Julian. Anna didn't say
anything about him being aggressive or dangerous but Anna wanted him out of her
flat because of his behaviour and because the flat was rather small. A herself
met Julian on two occasions, first at the crayfish party and then at a dinner
the day after.
Anna rang A on Friday 20 August right after the other girl
contacted Anna. Anna told her the other girl had told her she'd been raped by
Julian. According to Anna, there were a number of similarities between their
stories. What A primarily meant and what Anna told her was that Julian also had
sex without a condom with the other girl. The other girl wanted sex (but with a
condom) but Julian had seen to it they had sex without a condom against her
wishes. Anna rang A and updated her because she herself hadn't planned on
filing a complaint against Julian but she wanted to support the other girl.
A said the whole story got more and more uncomfortable for
her and she's accused herself of not understanding from the beginning so she
could have supported Anna right away.
A didn't know who the other girl was and still doesn't know.
Anna said it was the same girl Julian had traveled to see after he had his
shower.
Read back and approved. Chief interrogator's comments: the
interrogation was paused 2010-09-07 15:50 and resumed 2010-09-08 13:10 and
concluded 2010-09-08 13:50.
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